World Cultures and
Comparative American Studies
Date: Spring 1998
Copyright 1998, Five Colleges Ink
Reprinted with permission.
Crossroads in the Study of the Americas
The newest Five College center is
a curricular and co-curricular project
called Crossroads in the Study of the
Americas (CISA). Now well into its first
phase of planning with the support of
a three-year grant of $135,500 from
The Teagle Foundation, the Center for
Crossroads in the Study of the Americas
will by fall occupy a space of its own
on the Smith campus at 8 College Lane.
This spring, it was announced that Robbie
Schwartzwald, a professor of French
and Francophone Literature in the University's
Department of French and Italian Studies,
had been selected by a committee of
peers to serve as its director. Schwartzwald
assumes duties with the Center already
well acquainted with Five College matters,
having served for many years as the
chair of the Five College Canadian Studies
Program.
Although CISA is only a few months
old, it has already embarked on an ambitious
range of activities involving almost
a hundred faculty members in a wide
range of disciplines at all five campuses
including the liberal arts, the sciences,
and the professional schools at the
University. It was the Board of Directors
of Five Colleges, Incorporated who encouraged
the discussions that led up to the creation
of the new center. In their proposal
to Teagle, they sought an open-ended
planning grant that would "reverse a
trend visible on our campuses as on
campuses across the country ... a fragmentation
of the curriculum ... [that] derives
from well-intended efforts to meet curricular
needs arising from new scholarly understandings
of ethnic difference in America." What
form that new collaborative approach
to the study of the Americas might take
they left to the faculty to determine.
In the interview that follows, CISA's
new director describes the process through
which the idea for a center evolved,
as well as the goals and expectations
he and his colleagues have for it.
Q: How did you settle on the
title for the Center as Crossroads in
the Study of the Americas?
RS: Well, we came up, first of all,
with a number of things that we didn't
want to be. We didn't want to be limited
to the United States of America; we
didn't want to be a comparative hemispheric
program--the United States and the rest-which
inevitably leads to a north--south structuring
in which the United States becomes the
dominant term. So we eliminated the
binary model and adopted a triangular
approach. The first of the three points
on the triangle we called 'Old World
societies' defined not by Europe but
by the three continents from which people
came, or were forcibly brought, to the
Americas, Africa, Asia, and Europe.
The second we called 'New World polities'--the
'nation-states' of the Americas. And
the third point on the triangle was
made up of the indigenous peoples, or
what are sometimes called the "First
Nations," or Native Americans. It was
in the space created by this triangle
that we wanted the Center's program
to be developed. The triangular concept,
we feel, will enable us to reconfigure
a series of very traditional assumptions
about the Americas and about the American
experience.
And once we'd settled some of the
issues about what kind of program we
wanted, we decided that the focus of
our work, really the core of our identity,
should be curriculum development at
the undergraduate level.
Q: Could we talk next about
the conceptualization process that led
up to the establishment of the Center?
How did it work with so many different
perspectives and so many different disciplines
around the table, so to speak?
RS: When we began we couldn't fit
around the table, of course, because
the whole initiative was launched with
three large public forums, the first
of which was hosted by Smith President
Ruth Simmons on behalf of the Five College
Board of Directors. At the first meeting
in January of 1997, at least a hundred
people attended, including faculty,
administrators, and students from all
the colleges. President Simmons opened
discussion, I recall, by talking a little
bit about what had motivated her concern,
and what the Directors had in mind in
applying for this grant from Teagle.
In response, some people stood up and
talked about their experiences in different
area studies programs, including American
Studies, Afro-American and Latin American
studies programs already established;
some talked about what ethnic studies
might mean, or questioned whether we
should be loooking at issues of ethnicity
solely within the borders of the United
States, or whether we ought to be considering
these issues throughout the Americas.
Questions were also raised about language:
If we were to have a program on the
Americas, what would the role of various
languages be?
In short, there were a lot of questions,
a lot of reservations, and a lot of
caveats. Nonetheless, by the end of
that first meeting, my impression was
that people walked away quite convinced
that it was worth going on, and, indeed,
I found myself among one of the hundred
or more who subsequently showed up at
a second meeting at Mount Holyoke College
a little later in the semester. At that
meeting four speakers from American
Studies and Ethnic Studies programs
elsewhere in the country had come to
talk about the kinds of questions they
had had to confront in shaping their
programs. A third similarly well-attended
meeting confirmed a desire on the part
of faculty to use the grant as an opportunity
to develop something new.
The next step involved a much more
intensive process. About 30 or 40 people
responded to a call for a two-day retreat
session in Vermont. It was really through
a series of discussions at that meeting
attended by faculty as well as administrators
that we hammered out a program and concluded
that the best vehicle for that program
would be a Center. Up until that point,
there had been no particular form proposed.
It could have been another program with
or without a degree, it could have been
a research center or a curricular initiative
...
Q: There must have been some
hang-ups to be overcome, fears to be
allayed in the discussion process.
RS. Initially, there was a great deal
of concern in many quarters that this
not result in some umbrella under which
existing programs would be subsumed
into a more traditional American Studies
program. What kept people talking was
the fact that there was no preconception
about the kind of program the grant
might support and what form it should
take. Also, we had models of programs
elsewhere not within the traditional
American Studies mode, yet successful
in different ways.
The other concern had to do with area
studies. The five colleges have a number
of area studies programs that people
have worked very hard to develop, so
there was great reluctance to support
anything that might call the existence
of those programs into question. What
we wanted was some structure through
which the various area studies programs
could talk to each other around common
issues of concern.
Q: You seem to be suggesting
that the focus of the Center is on teaching
as opposed to research: Is that accurate?
RS: This doesn't mean we aren't interested
in people's research. On the contrary:
We're extraordinarily interested in
the individual faculty member's scholarly
work. But what we want them to do is
bring that to the table and share it
with people outside their own fields,
outside their own colleges, outside
the usual frameworks in which they work,
to try and develop courses together
that will challenge students to think
along interdisciplinary lines from the
very beginning of their educational
experience.
And that's quite a challenge--you
get people around the table from different
disciplines, who sometimes use the same
terms, or the same key words, but understand
them very differently. At first it's
hard enough for them to have to explain
what they mean to each other. It gets
harder when you ask, "Well, how are
we going to explain this to freshmen?"
Q: What's the relation between
the kinds of issues CISA concerns itself
with and the notion of globalization?
RS: They're inherently related; 'globalization'
is a word that gets used a lot but whose
meaning is quite slippery. On the one
hand, globalization implies an increasing
integration of economic frameworks that
favors an increased freedom of movement
for goods, as in the new WTO and NAFTA
pacts. But there's evidence that it
also brings with it increasing restrictions
on movement of peoples. Europe offers
a case in point: While it's possible
for European goods, or for a European
within the European union, to move relatively
easily now from one country to another,
the borders of Europe itself are being
shored up to make it much, much harder
for people outside Europe to get in.
Globalization has also radically altered
the nature of migration and diaspora.
At one time, many immigrants came to
the new world with the expectation that
they would never go home again. That's
really no longer the case, except in
instances where people cannot return
home for fear of political oppression.
Even in these cases, modern telecommunications
and modes of transportation allow for
continuing contact with the old world.
So the way people think about their
old lives in relation to their new ones
has fundamentally changed. But diaspora
has never been restricted to the notion
that one literally goes home again.
Sometimes the return is simply mythical,
a kind of ideal or a kind of comforting
psychological space. Today the 'return'
can, in fact, take place several times
within a person's real lifetime. Within
the old immigration paradigm of the
'host' country and the 'guest' immigrant,
the host had something to offer, and
the 'well-mannered' guest accepted whatwas
offered. By contrast, many now arrive
with the notion that they bring something
to the host, which ongoing contact with
their old country reinforces. It's not
that people don't want to integrate
into a new society: it's that the terms
of that integration have changed markedly
because continuing contact provides
them with a certain kind of leverage
with which to negotiate their identities
that may not have existed in quite the
same way before. Similarly, people are
now able to see themselves as belonging
to global sexual communities, for example.
This kind of globalization doesn't so
much constitute an alternative to nation
or ethnicity as force a discussion of
the ways in which forms of national
or ethnic belonging are gendered or
hierarchicized sexually, both among
groups and within each group.
Q: What implications do all
these issues have for governance, for
how people establish their identity
as citizens?
RS: They have many implications that
go both ways. The notion of globalization
often brings with it the assumption
that because things are becoming more
integrated, somehow traditional national
sovereignty doesn't matter as much,
that boundaries don't matter. That formulation,
in my judgment, is much too simplistic.
It's certainly true that one complement
to the globalization of markets seems
to be the much greater possibility of
the assertion of identities: People
have multiple identities, and they're
in a sense much freer to assert those
because there are all these new networks
that can support those identitarian
claims.
By contrast, when you look at even
the most stridently universalizing models,
such as France, you see within them
certain assumptions about the public
and private realm. The unspoken assumption
there that the "citizen" is of Christian
background, if not of Christian belief,
has enormous implications for governance
when you begin having a sizable community
in your country that is not of Christian
origin. Muslims of North African origin,
and their French-born children, for
instance, seek recognition and integration
into a specific juridical entity with
which they have a long historical relationship,
specifically colonialism and its unresolved
traces in the present.
Q: Returning much closer to
home, how are these issues of cultural
identity and community playing out on
our own campuses?
RS: One approach has been to assert
a particular identity as one's unique
expression of authenticity. The result
is a number of competing identity claims,
many of which are based on a demand
for the redress of very real forms of
historical injustice or historical oppression.
Many people involved in these kinds
of politics have found that appealing
to the democratic or liberal sentiments
of people in power, or even their guilt,
is a way to get something. In fact,
it may be the only way to get anything!
Because otherwise the experience of
'integrating' these various claims has
often been reduced to the question of
representation in the most literal,
minimal sense. It's as if as long as
you have one representative of this
group or of that group in a governing
body, the body doesn't feel compelled
to rethink what the integration of these
voices might mean for its overall mission
or orientation. The 'pacifying,' often
cynical, assumption is that each group
making a claim should be given its niche,
or its little alcove, and that will
solve everything. Again, the center
holds.
In a sense, the whole purpose of a
center like CISA is to get people talking
precisely about the kinds of questions
you just asked: What are the implications
of this for governance? In other words,
what are the implications for how we
do politics, or how we govern the affairs
of our common community, whether that
be local, on campus, or on the level
of the State? Is there a way of acting
politically that isn't all against all,
and doesn't simply reduce questions
of identity to serial or pluralistic
representation? Many of the courses
the Center will be developing will focus
on the question of what we want our
students to be thinking about in terms
of their role as citizens of the Americas
as we come into the 21st century.
Q: At this stage, what kinds
of activities are under way under the
aegis of the Center?
RS: Between 60 and 70 faculty members
are taking part in four different seminars
running concurrently this semester.
Each has developed its own particular
orientation and reading list out of
a common beginning, but we plan to bring
those groups back together at the end
of the semester. And from that convergence,
we hope to emerge with teams of faculty
ready to begin designing the first courses
in our program over the summer. We have
made a very deliberate decision not
to use the individual stipend model
for course development. If we were to
get people talking to each other who
don't normally speak to each other-across
disciplines, across schools-we needed
a mechanism to bring them together.
Rather than simply funding people to
do something that they've already thought
about, we want the stipends given out
by the Center to support things that
they're going to think about through
our seminars. What we're saying is,
"We want you to go through the process
of talking to your colleagues within
the framework provided by the faculty
seminar to develop topics together for
future courses, and then when you come
out as a group at the other end of this,
and say, 'I want to work with X, Y and
Z around this kind of a course,' then
we'll provide you with funding to actually
do it." In that way, the curriculum
will have been shaped by a larger discussion.
Q: Earlier in our conversation,
you said that the Center hopes to introduce
students to the "crossroads" framework--the
"governing notion of the Center's work"--from
the very beginning of their educational
experience. How will that occur?
RS: We've envisioned the curricular
component of the Center's work as a
kind of two-tiered system, where there
would be one layer of courses offered
at the freshman level, and then a series
of more advanced courses at the senior
level, including a kind of senior seminar.
That will represent a major initiative
for the five colleges because, although
we obviously have experience with team
teaching and with people teaching at
a college not their own, this would
be the first time a programmatic set
of courses would be specifically designed
to be taught across colleges, across
disciplines by teams of faculty. At
the core of our program, then, is a
fundamental transformation of the undergraduate
curriculum.
Q: What in your judgment might
be the best outcome of the Center's
work?
RS: The best outcome, from my perspective,
would be a new curriculum--one that
fulfills the urgency that many of the
people coming to this project have felt
for introducing students immediately
to issues of culture and citizenship
as they are posed today. Since the 1960s,
universities have been challenged to
allow in a whole series of voices and
experiences that had never been heard
or had never been thought worthy of
recognition in institutions of higher
learning. And even though that work
is not yet finished--the results of
squashing of affirmative action in admissions
to the University of California system
show us just how fragile such gains
may be--it is also true that studies
of race, ethnicity, gender, and sexuality
may also become institutionalized in
particular ways, and this often results
in isolating groups and even kinds of
curriculum from each other as a claim
is made for a kind of positive, self-sufficient
presence for each of them.
So, there are at least two different
issues at stake here. One is pedagogical:
How do we teach as teachers? Teaching
is meant to be critical and disruptive--to
demand of people that they ask questions
of things that they take for granted
in life and things that they feel sure
about. Now, when you talk about identities
that are racial or ethnic or sexual,
it's a little more complicated, because
the messages that minoritized or marginalized
groups have been getting throughout
most of their lives isn't necessarily
a simple one of being able to take those
identities for granted or to feel in
any way proud of them or good about
them.
And that conundrum constitutes the
crux of the second issue. There's often
a tendency for people to think that
through counter-hegemonic cultural practices,
questions of citizenship and the State
can somehow be avoided, but If all we're
saying to students is, "Here is a role
model with which you can identify; here
is an identity to which you can owe
a particular kind of allegiance," then
I think we're also not serving them
well either. In fact, some of the most
profound literature that comes out of
any particular experience often asks
very disturbing questions about the
identities of people within that experience,
but it's not easy in a classroom to
teach or present that material when
what students are often seeking spontaneously
is a form of validation. There is work
to be done where those two conflicting
needs meet, otherwise we risk cutting
off the kind of critical thought an
individual needs to be part of the polis,
to be part of the community as a whole.
In other words, when a student comes
to the university as a freshman, it's
perfectly legitimate for that student,
if she's Latina, for example, or he's
gay, to expect to see courses in the
curriculum that speak to that experience.
But it's also true that each student
has a whole range of experiences in
the world that are shared by people
who do not have that particular identity,
and that people who share that identity
also have a series of different perspectives
on the world.
Subject positions are multiple and
shifting in their respective importance
in each individual's life; recognizing
this has profound implications for our
ability to develop a curriculum that
has students learning from each other
and together, and especially for countering
a logic of fragmentation that so many
have found distressing.
Q: What makes it possible
to have such a conversation, a crossroads,
now and not, say, 10 years ago?
RS: Most people will tell you that
in their experience disciplinary boundaries
today are much less comfortable than
they were at some other point, and that
the conversations we are seeking to
structure have already been taking place
within these discrete disciplines for
some time. Certainly, as the various
disciplines have moved to try and accommodate
some of these questions, they have inevitably
bumped up against each other. New theoretical
approaches that have developed above
and around disciplines have also brought
people together in ways that we want
the Center to concretize. We want that
discussion to be directed toward the
implementation of courses so that the
conversation can spill over into the
classroom.
Q: Will the new courses the
Center proposes to introduce change
or expand the definition of a liberal
arts curriculum?
RS: The issues the Center is concerned
with have real implications, as you've
said earlier, for the ways in which
our societies are governed and the ways
in which we are able or not able to
play roles as citizens. And those are
the kinds of questions we want to be
asking of our undergraduates right from
the beginning. In fact, it's the one
thing that, it seems to me, a liberal
arts curriculum really must do at this
time. Until fairly recently, cultural
and intellectual production--the symbolic
sectors of human activity, if you will--enjoyed
some autonomy, however relative, from
the logic of the market. But I think
today many people in the humanities
feel viscerally that this is under attack,
that more and more of what you hear
today about universities is the notion
that they need to directly serve the
economic needs of a particular form
of social organization, which means
that the university itself is expected
to be an economic player, and that the
students should expect to be trained
for very specific kinds of jobs into
which they can fit. What it means is
that the liberal arts curriculum itself,
which ideally is a curriculum for turning
out good citizens, critical thinkers,
and people who are aware of themselves
as citizens of larger communities and
of the world, is reduced to a kind of
service function.
Q: CISA is an answer to that,
isn't it?
RS: Well, it's trying to be. And what's
interesting about the Center is that
it brings together in a very concrete
way people in the traditional liberal
arts fields with people from the professional
schools: We have faculty in our seminars
from the University's School of Management
sitting alongside colleagues from the
humanities and social sciences, and
from the natural sciences. We're all
involved in a common project here, but
it has nothing to do with turning the
liberal arts into a direct support structure
for economic performance.
Q: What kinds of activities
do you anticipate the Center will be
supporting in the near future?
RS: By September, we'll have filled
a visiting appointment for a two- year
term. We expect to appoint someone who
brings a comparative-theoretical perspective
to his or her work in looking at the
multiplicity of groups that might fall
under our program. That person will
introduce new courses that we expect
to serve as one focal point alongside
the other courses that are being developed.
The Center might also play a role in
supplementing curricular areas that
are underdeveloped within the various
institutions. We also have talked about
having a fellows program, which would
involve faculty members who are working
on course development in any specific
year, perhaps graduate students or even
undergraduates doing senior theses in
areas related to the Center's program.
We would also hope to bring in teachers
from the local public schools through
the fellowship program. Even as we begin
to develop and offer new courses through
the Center, we intend to continue hosting
faculty seminars to encourage faculty
to talk to each other across the disciplines,
across colleges, around topics that
might be more or less specific in nature
but always related to the Center's program.
One of the chief components of our work
is to get students involved directly,
not just by attending courses that we
offer, but also by encouraging research
that more advanced students would do
on the topics that are related to our
Center . . . We have our first student
symposium coming up this May.
For more information about the Crossroads
in the Study of the Americas program,
contact program director Robbie Schwartzwald
by e-mail at rss@frital.umass.edu
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